the taylor swift concert

12. the two coach bennetts are talking taylor swift, specifically her concert in seattle, washington on july 23. we also talk about our night in seattle, singalongs, history podcasts and petty grievances. 


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jon meacham's it was said podcast
jon meacham's reflections of history podcast

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Transcript

coach chris bennett: 0:06

Welcome to the to

coach tammie bennett: 0:08

coach Bennett's talking Podcast. I'm Coach Tammie Bennett.

coach chris bennett: 0:12

And I'm Coach Chris Bennett. This is where we talk about

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anything we want. Anything we want, like movies or music, running, not running life and what gets us excited. Fantasy and sci fi

coach chris bennett: 0:27

books?

coach tammie bennett: 0:28

No, we're not talking about that. Right?

coach chris bennett: 0:31

Well, we'll talk about everything but fantasy and sci fi books.

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So sit back for keep moving because it's time to start talking.

coach chris bennett: 0:41

Welcome to Episode 12 of to coach Bennett's talking the Taylor Swift concert. That's right. Today, we're going to be talking about the July 23. Seattle Washington Taylor Swift concert. We'll talk about the parking lot outside the Taylor Swift concert, as well as what we saw in and around Seattle, on an epic night of music. We'll also talk about our petty grievances. What's floating our fancies, as always, we open up the mailbag. And we talked about so much more. Let's get started.

coach tammie bennett: 1:17

Hello, Coach Bennett.

coach chris bennett: 1:19

Coach Bennett. How you doing?

coach tammie bennett: 1:22

Okay, what's new?

coach chris bennett: 1:25

So much. I'm glad that you asked. You know, I just got back from Seattle yesterday. What's new with you?

coach tammie bennett: 1:32

I also got back from Seattle yesterday in the same car as you.

coach chris bennett: 1:36

Oh, my goodness. That's right. You were next to me? What are we doing up in Seattle coach?

coach tammie bennett: 1:41

We took our girls to a Taylor Swift concert. But that's what we're going to talk about later. So

coach chris bennett: 1:47

oh, well, maybe it just wanted to grab everyone's attention. So they stuck around?

coach tammie bennett: 1:51

Yeah, the title of this episode, like the Taylor Swift concert might also reel them in.

coach chris bennett: 1:58

Hmm. Do you think there's a few people? And I'm not saying it's a high percentage. But do you think there's a few that thought they were actually going to get to listen to a Taylor Swift concert?

coach tammie bennett: 2:09

Hmm. Interesting. I mean, sure. out of 8 billion people. Yeah, probably.

coach chris bennett: 2:15

Well, I don't know if 8 billion people are listening to our podcast. I'm saying just the percentage of listeners. Okay, fine. Yes. Okay. Should we tell them all now that there's not a Taylor Swift concert ticket giveaway at the end as well? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, all right. Well, we lost about six people, I'd say.

coach tammie bennett: 2:35

Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. Let's focus on the ones who stayed.

coach chris bennett: 2:39

Yeah, that's right. Hey, before we get into the Taylor Swift concert, why don't we tell everybody, maybe a few of the highlights for the two coach Bennett's walking around Seattle while our daughters were actually in the concert.

coach tammie bennett: 2:52

So we're not talking about anything. concerti. We're just talking about what we did.

coach chris bennett: 2:56

Yeah, we'll just do that for like two minutes, and then we'll dive into some of the Taylor Swift stuff.

coach tammie bennett: 3:01

Okay, so I think it's kind of funny, because I think in a weird way, there aren't that many highlights, because we got mediocre dinner, you can tell your nice bonus part about that in a minute. Then we went to Pike Place Market, which we've been to before, and it's fun, but it was closed. And then we were on a mission to find ice cream. And the places that we wanted were closed or not in walking distance. Then we went to another mediocre restaurant and my hot fudge brownie sundae was all melted and gross. So I mean, I guess the highlight was walking around with you. Which is fine. But like we could have stayed home and done that. Like we could have done that around our the block. Right. So I don't mean to like trash on Seattle. But it left a little to be desired outside of the Taylor Swift concert on this particular visit.

coach chris bennett: 3:53

I mean, some of this makes sense. It wasn't it was a Sunday night. So Pike Place Market had been shut down for the day. The Irish Pub we went to we won't give the name out. Was Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was sub mediocre. I won't even say it was mediocre. It was sub mediocre. I mean, I ordered a cup of Irish beef stew, which I have to look up the recipe because maybe they did it correctly. But there was no beef in the beef stew. There were potatoes. There were even a few carrots but there was no actual beef. So maybe it's kind of a joke. But I didn't know were on the menu. Did it seem like this was tongue in cheek Irish beef stew, no beef.

coach tammie bennett: 4:31

And there was no like little asterix beside it. And you look down at the bottom of the page and it says buy beef we mean not beef.

coach chris bennett: 4:36

Yeah, exactly. There was nothing like that. I will say though, if this is kind of like a throwback to like, like some historical Irish thing. And that's kind of a joke. That's really kind of funny, but it's not. So it was just sub mediocre. Yeah, and then the ice cream thing was disappointing as well. We did see the first Starbucks store. We didn't go in because it was a long line. Wow, this really is kind of low on highlights

coach tammie bennett: 5:02

high on low lights. Yeah, that's gonna be get into the meat and taters.

coach chris bennett: 5:06

Okay, well, unless we go back to this pub and then it's just taters.

coach tammie bennett: 5:11

Exactly. Or we could call this meat and Taylor's

coach chris bennett: 5:15

Oh, wow, meat less and tailors about that. It's even better. All right. Let's go. Rapid fire. Tell me the first thing you want to talk about when I say Taylor Swift concert? July 23 2023? Seattle, Washington,

coach tammie bennett: 5:36

the parking lot.

coach chris bennett: 5:38

All right. So I have a follow up question. What are you talking about? What do you mean parking lot?

coach tammie bennett: 5:43

So we can do the before and during parts of the parking lot. I want to start with during.

coach chris bennett: 5:49

Okay, let's do that. So tell me about this parking lot during the Taylor Swift concert.

coach tammie bennett: 5:54

Yeah, so we had decided during our depressing walk around Seattle, that we would go to the parking lot outside of the stadium way early. For one, we had no idea when the concert would be over. I mean, we've heard that it's like she gives it an over three hour concert. But we didn't know exactly when she went on, she had two opening acts. So we already knew that we wanted to go early, just so that we would make sure that we are there to pick up our daughters. But also because we saw people milling about earlier. And so and you know, as we were walking around Seattle, we saw a couple of people with Taylor Swift shirts on and like soccer chairs, like heading towards the stadium, and I'm like, Oh my gosh, they're gonna park outside, like in the parking lot and sit there and listen. So we decided we were going to do that. But I think we had no idea. No idea what we were in for, and how many 1000s of people would be there and the level of participation in the concert that they had, I think just was astounding. And I don't know about you, but it made me a little bit emotional.

coach chris bennett: 6:54

Yeah, we, you know, you got emotional a number of times that day. But yeah, so it was one of the times you got emotional that day. But I'm with you. I thought we were going to show up. This is outside the football stadium. So where are the Seattle Seahawks play? So there's two stadiums, a baseball stadium where the mariners play a football stadium? Where the Seahawks play? I'm guessing where lumen field, which is where the Seahawks play, what is it about? 65 70,000? If I had to guess?

coach tammie bennett: 7:19

Yeah, I think it's 67,000 for some reason, but Okay, so

coach chris bennett: 7:22

67,000. And so it's probably close to 70, because you have the entire field, obviously are fans. So I was expecting, maybe you'd get a couple 100 At most 1000 people hanging outside in the parking lot right next to the stadiums in downtown Seattle. And when we showed up, how many people were there, if you had to guess.

coach tammie bennett: 7:44

We were thinking like five to 7000.

coach chris bennett: 7:47

Yeah, I would say and it was probably closer to seven, I would say because like by

coach tammie bennett: 7:51

the end, it was probably more like 5000 like right before the show ended because people sort of started to pack up and go home.

coach chris bennett: 7:57

Yes. And it was you're right. It was intense. Everyone was singing. Everyone was dancing. Almost everyone was standing up. dressed up. Similar to how everyone in the stadium was. It was wild. Yes. We hung out there for what probably the last hour and a half of the show.

coach tammie bennett: 8:15

Yeah, almost two hours. Yeah. And just like people loving each other hugging each other trading bracelets, like you said, singing at the top of their lungs from the bottom of their guts. Yeah, just huge crowds. So a lot of them I think had been in the show the night before, a lot of them had on the little like armbands that you get when you go into the show, but a lot of them, I was wondering about their story, like maybe they just couldn't get tickets. So this is like the best they could do, which was still amazing. You could hear the crowd inside the stadium. So well. You could hear them singing, which was that I think that was the emotional part for me when you hear 67,000 people singing along all the words to Taylor, it's it's really powerful.

coach chris bennett: 8:59

Yeah, that was insane. I have to say, having I'm sure we'll go over this as we keep talking. And I'll probably because I get unbelievably repetitive when I'm excited. Listening to that many people singing with that much passion. It was overwhelming. And it's always overwhelming at concerts, but having been to a lot of concerts. And I'm gonna say this again and again. I've never experienced anything like this. And we weren't even in the concert. But to hear the 70,000 people every single song for the close to two hours that we were outside. Every single lyric sounded like it was being sung by every single person inside the stadium. It was immense.

coach tammie bennett: 9:43

Yeah, and I think one of my very favorite parts and I told you this and it might make me cry right now. It almost made me cry. Ben was seeing the raw emotion vulnerability passion of so many teenage girls singing in public Like, the way that I used to sing in my room with the door shut and I would have been mortified to the ends of the earth. If anybody ever saw me like basically bent over double belting out the words from all of my being with my eyes closed and like my fists like, clenched, right like, with such, what do you call it just passion. Yeah, these girls were just like in the parking lot and, and also inside, based on what our girls are telling us. These girls were just out in the open as raw as they could be singing their hearts out and it was oh, it was moving on, like these girls are such badasses that they don't give a flying poop, who's watching them, they are just so into the song and into the moment into the message that they are just being 100% Pure.

coach chris bennett: 10:51

Yeah, and I think that was maybe the other thing in the parking lot. And inside that you could tell there, it was really powerful. And I don't mean like the overwhelm like what we were talking about. Initially, this is a different type of power. I'm talk about the the actual fans were super powerful, like they were, it was almost intimidating. Because you could tell that they all felt that they were a part of something, they all felt safe with each other. They felt like this was like their place. You know what I mean? Like they didn't have to apologize for what they were doing. They didn't have to look over their shoulder to see if you know, someone was looking at their outfit, because that was the other thing I want to get into in a little bit. Or, like you said how they were singing. And the the what was really cool was how many of them were singing to each other. Like, they were just they were just groups of a dozen fans staring at each other singing to each other. It reminded me of the most epic parts of the YouTube concerts I went to where you know, you had like, where the streets have no name, but it seemed like this was where the streets have no name, every single song. Which is incredible. You to keep that high up for three hours is amazing. And every new song that came on, every one would flip out.

coach tammie bennett: 12:12

Yeah, like one note, and they knew what the song was. And they were like ready to go. Yeah, I think the favorite word that you just said that matched it. So well was unapologetic, just absolutely unapologetic in their passion. Oh my gosh. And it's funny, it reminds me actually, when you said they were singing to each other, it reminds me of how you liked to end parties in college. So your favorite thing was to be in charge of the music. And your favorite thing was to end the night with everybody kind of in a circle arms around each other just belting out the tunes all together like a sing along. And so I think that's probably why we liked it so much. The Swift concert?

coach chris bennett: 12:53

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, we love people that are kind of swept away, you know, that are so passionate about it, that they're they're just this is nothing else exists except what they're doing at that moment. Which for two hours, I felt like that's what we were surrounded by. We're surrounded by a whole bunch of people that were just fully living this absolute moment. And my point is, I'm going to get out of the parking lot here for a second. When we initially were walking around Seattle, which was on our way to the parking lot in the afternoon, we kind of noticed these things not in you know, Showtime hadn't started. But we were getting the we were saying a lot of the same things. As we were just noticing, first of all, the city was taken over by the Swifties. And it was all ages, all sizes, all walks of life, and all eras, because everyone was dressed in a different way representing I guess a different era of of her career. And we noticed these things where it was, regardless of the era that you were in the every single person owned what they were wearing 100%. And I think they were able to not just own it because they felt powerful. It was also because everyone was supporting each other it was my friend Sean Noonan had mentioned he had gone earlier in New Jersey, at MetLife Stadium with his daughter. And I remember it stuck out when he said and I brought this up with you probably a dozen times last 48 hours that it reminded him of a dead show. A Grateful Dead show and I was like You gotta be kidding me. What's he talking about? And now I get it. The community was so strong, so supportive of each other, so protective of each other, that you could fully show up as who you were, and celebrate the way you want it to fully accepted. No questions asked, which was amazing. Just walking around Seattle noticing that. And that was kind of the vibe. I also kind of equated to like a marathon weekend in a city. It's that much energy and positivity. It was mind blowing walking around Seattle. Five hours before the show even started.

coach tammie bennett: 15:03

Yeah, I think that's so true. And I think this goes back to that word, unapologetic. So not only is the crowd totally embracing of each other, but you have to be so comfortable with yourself and own yourself and your own body shape and body size and your own outfit. In order to then be accepting of everybody else around you. And like you said, we saw all walks of life, we saw pre pubescent girls, we saw all types of body shapes and sizes. And yeah, it was just so cool to see people that I think normally wouldn't maybe try to hide who they are, or not be themselves fully in some situations. Here, their chins were held high, their chest, were out proud of just, they just their posture was like, This is me. And I have zero apology for it. And it was just a Yeah, it was just so powerful to just see in the creativity, like we can just kind of move on to that, like the creativity and thought that went into these outfits

coach chris bennett: 16:03

will explain a little bit about that. Because I think if you're not someone who's been around it, or has people in your life that are massive Taylor Swift Fans, you may not know because I never would have known about most of this stuff, and maybe talk about the creativity that's encouraged. When you go to a Taylor Swift show. It's not just about watching the show, like you're, you're a part of this creativity that even surrounds the show.

coach tammie bennett: 16:26

Yes, I mean, I think, you know, I've learned this from our daughters and the conversations leading up to the concert. But so many people chose the era that they love the most like the album from that era that they love the most. And then, so they would dress similar to the album cover or similar to how Taylor dressed in the concerts for that album. Or they would take something from the lyrics of one of their songs from that era. And there was just so much thought it's almost like so many inside jokes, like only Swifties would get it. So like there was even one kind of shirt that walked by, you know, so when we were waiting for our daughters, we probably had, I don't know, 30 or 40,000 people walked by us. And so, you know, we were really seeing a lot of trends and a lot of like, kind of repeat outfits. And some of them were like inside jokes that were not Swiftie enough to get our daughters knew them right away. But it just almost like shows how deep your knowledge of Taylor Swift and the eras goes. But it was just so thoughtful, so clever. Yeah, it's almost like when you go to those Halloween parades and you're like, man, people are really brilliant for some of the stuff that they come up with. That's how I felt looking at a lot of these with these in their outfits.

coach chris bennett: 17:40

And talk a little bit about the wristbands. Now the bracelet bracelets, I'm sorry, the bracelets. Yeah, talk a little bit about the bracelets, because I was blown away by that.

coach tammie bennett: 17:50

First, can I just talk about our daughter's outfits?

coach chris bennett: 17:53

Yes, please do. Yeah. So

coach tammie bennett: 17:55

you know, when you want to talk about crying, so our daughters, one of them, they made their shirts, they took some jewels, and they glued it on to shirts, and one of them glued on a moon and one of them glued on a Saturn. And it's from a song titled seven. And my daughter told me that a lot of people think that that song is about sisters, and so our daughters, and there's a lyric like love you to the moon and to Saturn, something like that. I'm probably butchering it, but it just it like broke my heart and the best way for them to choose this lyric from a song that supposedly about sisters. Oh, my gosh, stop. Give me the tissues.

coach chris bennett: 18:31

You didn't tell me that until we had safely dropped them off at the stadium. And we were we were waiting for your really, really disgusting brownie sundae. And that's when you told me I was just like, oh my goodness, thank goodness, you did not tell me this earlier. As we were like dropping them off. Because that that would have been I would have been a mess.

coach tammie bennett: 18:55

Yeah. But so similar to that was the the bracelets that Swifties make leading up to the show. So they pick song titles or album titles, or they pick lyrics from songs that people really resonate with. And so then the deal is, is you bring all of these bracelets that you make, they're all beaded bracelets, a lot of those letter beads. So many in fact that craft stores around the country were sold out when tailors with concerts were coming to their area, they sold out of letter beads. But anyways, so then you you bring them and then you trade them. So while you're in the merch line or while you're getting to your seat or you trade them with people in your section, and there's just so so I don't know, camaraderie about it that, you know, I don't know there's something so cool about that, that you go there with the intention of making friends and sharing what songs you love and sharing cute bracelets and coming away with a new stack. So our girls had one arm full of the bracelets that they made. And their goal was to come back with the other arm full of bracelets that they were given. And so to just trade Don't know trade pieces of what's important to you and get it back is just so cool. So cool

coach chris bennett: 20:06

and extended outside of the concert too, because we're on our way to the field. The police that were acting as the crossing guards had bracelets on the concert goers were giving them. So as we were, like waving by, you know, they were like waving their arms and you saw that the cops had like six or seven bracelets, Taylor Swift bracelets with different song lyrics or song titles on their arms as they were going by which was just hilarious.

coach tammie bennett: 20:35

Yeah, I saw stories of when of security guards that were working the events working, the concerts would end up with bracelets, too.

coach chris bennett: 20:43

Yeah, I'm wearing four of them right now. So there we go.

coach tammie bennett: 20:47

Yeah, it was really cute. When our daughters and us got back to the hotel room. They offered to give us one or two of their bracelets that they had gotten as a thank you for us making a trip and taking them there. It was really cute.

coach chris bennett: 20:59

Yes, super awesome. I gotta ask you this. Just it just rapid fire. Okay, since we're talking about Taylor Swift, we didn't get to go to it. We were both very jealous. Okay. i I have no doubt that if I had been inside the stadium, I would have had to have said that was probably the greatest concert I'd ever been to. From afar. You could see that it was like the pageantry of like a Madonna show. It was it had the like, Bruce Springsteen type fan. Catalog stuff you had deadhead support. It was song after song Three. I think they did. She did what? 4546 songs. So it's like a Pearl Jam shows unbelievable. And the singing would have swept me away. So I would say it would probably if I had been in I probably would be sitting right now. This Taylor Swift was the best concert I've ever been to having not gone. I'd have to have another show. What's the best show you've ever been to?

coach tammie bennett: 21:56

I think Tom Petty lots of good heartbreakers even though he's not my favorite artists by any means. There was something about the pageantry of the show. And like you said, yeah, just something about the show something about the atmosphere? The I don't know. It just all came together.

coach chris bennett: 22:15

That's about to say it all came together. That's great. That's a good answer. What about you? You two, back in 2000 to 2000 to 2001, I guess no would have been 2001 would have been followed 2001. So thing was about six or eight weeks after 911. I got to see you two in Oakland. So it was super powerful. And the singing along all of that stuff. The crowd just felt like it was one, which is why I was I was getting that vibe from Taylor Swift that it seemed like everyone was in it together. And I told you when we were sitting outside, I remember walking out of the YouTube concert. And I thought the same thing looking at the parking lot. So many people wish going to church or religion was a lot like this, like that joy, and that support. You know, and that that freedom to be who you are like that was it? Was that rapturous? And that too. So to me, it was you too, which again, I've been to a lot of great concerts since it's over 20 years ago. I probably would have said, if we had snuck in. I might be saying something different today. Yeah. Amazing. All right. Well, if you have chance to go see your overseas I think she only has a couple more in the continental US. We highly recommend you go we're just hanging out in the parking lot outside. It's a great show.

coach tammie bennett: 23:37

Yeah, bring it let's bring it down. Petty grievance. What you got petty grievances.

coach chris bennett: 23:43

Well, being in a city I didn't see it too much. I saw the opposite. While we're in Seattle, there are a lot of cars going by there were honking the concert goers. There were a lot of people on bikes that were blasting Taylor Swift from their bikes. I thought this is so awesome. So I immediately thought of what the opposite is, which is people driving by and doing kind of drive by insults. So my petty grievance are people who are cruising by 5060 miles an hour. They don't have to introduce themselves to anybody. They don't have to stand there and deal with any kind of retort they just drive by and yell nasty crap. That's my petty grievance. So if you're thinking of driving by and yelling, something obnoxious to somebody, Don't be a douche canoe. And I will tag you Tammy, I've never heard that before. So thank you for giving me that. That's my petty grievance, just drive by and be kind because it truly made walking around the city so much more fun because you would see a car kind of slow down and you knew they were going to yell something nice. Or give a honk or a wave or a thumbs up to everybody. That's what a better way to walk around thinking everyone who's driving by is going to be Be Cool Cat. Okay, I like it. Yeah. How about you?

coach tammie bennett: 24:51

So my petty grievance is one that I thought of while we were recording the podcast, I think two episodes ago. I remember that and I'm like, Oh, I thought of a petty grievance, but then I didn't say it last time. And I feel really bad for all the listeners that may be just hanging out waiting for me to give the petty grievance that I thought of two times ago. So are you ready?

coach chris bennett: 25:13

I'm ready. And I bet at age like fine wine. So what is your petty grievance?

coach tammie bennett: 25:17

Yeah, it's really petty, really, really petty. But hey, that's why we named it this. So it's when I am sharing popcorn with someone, and they put their hands in and they rifle around a rifle around and rifle around a rifle around and move the pieces over. And finally, grab a piece or a handful to put into their mouth. It takes so long and I think it's like, I think it all relates to scarcity from having five younger brothers and sisters. And anytime there was like, good food brought in the house, it was gone within minutes. So much so that like my brothers would have to like, lick, like all the Pop Tarts in the container so that nobody else would eat them, and then tell people like I licked them all. So you'd have to clean your food. And I think it's something like that. So like, I want the popcorn and I'm scared that if you take too long, you're going to take too much of it. There's going to be none left for me. I'm not I'm not saying you always because I share popcorn with other people. But so yeah, it's just the like, or if we're sharing like a drink. And you go for it at the same time. I do and then you take too long. I just get this like anxiety feeling a little bit. But yeah, it's mostly with the popcorn. Just get your peace and go get out of there. Don't rifle around for so long.

coach chris bennett: 26:35

Okay, can I just ask a couple of follow up questions? Sure. Okay. You're not talking about me?

coach tammie bennett: 26:44

I answered that already. I said not specifically. You It's but ever I happen to be sharing popcorn where they all do it. Oh, that people do it yet. But

coach chris bennett: 26:51

but just for the record here when I make you popcorn. Because 98 out of 100 times. I'm making you the popcorn with the butter and the salt by the way. Such great proportions of it, too. Yes, I do it and I do it. In a very specific way. It takes time. But I hand you the bowl. I don't go near the bowl again until it's done. Because

coach tammie bennett: 27:15

you're smart. I'm talking about movies, though. That's when we share popcorn. I will say when I'm getting Ganic

coach chris bennett: 27:20

massive thing of popcorn you're taking area, but I'm not but okay, fine. Maybe around. Yeah, no, no, no, no. My petty concern here is is I don't mix around. I don't write fill around. I grab a fistful and I put it in there. And by the way, thank you very much, Chris. I'm the one who has to hold on to the bucket most of the time and give everyone their popcorn. So if I'm rifling around, it's because I'm rifling around filling up a bunch of little plants that

coach tammie bennett: 27:48

Stuffins totally different. Yeah, well, I'm not. But I will also say that when you give me my delicious popcorn that you make to perfect proportions at home, one of our daughters likes to come up and have some and she knows to be afraid. She's very trepidatious is that a word? As she like tiptoes up to ask if she can have some I wonder why. So then what the solve that has been fantastic is at the movie theater and at home, we get other little bowls, and we divvy it out so then I don't have to wait for someone's hand to be in the communal popcorn. We just divvy it out and then I can have my bowl portion to myself. Okay, and this is all based on like childhood trauma of being scarcity of food. So let's, it's petty, but it also goes deeper than that.

coach chris bennett: 28:36

All right, so this is I'm gonna back away slowly now. Okay, that's fine. So it's okay guys. It's okay. Good. All right. I'll make you some popcorn tonight.

coach tammie bennett: 28:45

Okay, and then back away,

coach chris bennett: 28:47

and back away. All right. What's next because I got the order wrong when we were just about to start. So what's next? mailbag? mailbag? Okay, so this is an artificial mailbag, because I imagine most people are going to ask this question, so I'm asking for you. I'm gonna pretend I'm rifling through the mailbag. Okay. What is your favorite Taylor Swift song? Great question. Tammy. Coach Bennett. What's your favorite Taylor Swift song?

coach tammie bennett: 29:16

Um, I think right now it is you need to calm down on the lover album. I love the lyrics. I love the melody. I'm just really loving it right now. I go through phases right now I'm kind of liking the lover album a lot. And this particular song I'm having a lot of fun with. Alright, so what is your favorite Taylor Swift song?

coach chris bennett: 29:39

My favorite Taylor Swift song is out of the woods. Huh? Which is from 1989. And I can embarrassingly and quickly tell you my story. I first heard 1989 When I was listening to Ryan Adams, and it was a new album by him I was listening to it. And I thought to myself, and he's known as being a very good songwriter. I love this. These are the best lyrics he's ever written. song after song for songs. This is This is amazing. And then there was one line where I thought, I've heard that line before. So I really quickly looked up the album, and I saw those review on Rolling Stone. And none of them were here's his lyrics, he had literally just covered the entire album 1989 So I was listening to Taylor Swift lyrics, I thought, I never would have thought Taylor Swift wrote like this, because I never listened to Taylor Swift. So then that led me to actually listening to her album and being blown away. And her version of out of the woods is even better than the one that I thought was mind blowing to begin with. So out of the woods, Taylor Swift 1989. Sadly, she's not doing it on this tour. And I think it would be an epic stadium, perfect song for the tour. So if Taylor, if you're listening, my advice would be add a 47 song, put it out of the woods.

coach tammie bennett: 31:07

And that would just be one of her secret songs. Yeah, if it hasn't been already, I feel did I did we ask our girls?

coach chris bennett: 31:14

They said it hasn't been? Wow. Yeah, I think it's the secret songs are kind of supposed to be more secondary beside, not all of them. That's what I thought. Well,

coach tammie bennett: 31:30

well, before we move on from mailbag, I just want to say that we have not checked it in quite a little bit of time, maybe two weeks, maybe three weeks. So if you have sent in mail, we are super grateful for it. We just haven't picked it up yet. We will do so this week. And we will get back on to answering your questions. So keep them coming. You will find the address in the show notes. And yeah, send us the questions and we will make sure that we answer them. Sorry for you being a little bit behind on that.

coach chris bennett: 32:00

And I think maybe in one of the next couple of episodes, maybe we'll have a mailbag heavy episode. I like it. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Hey, guess what's next coach? Floating my fancy. So what's floating your fancy?

coach tammie bennett: 32:15

What's floating my fancy right now is I'm in this quilt phase. I talked about a quilt store last time, but I just have to talk to you about Wendy Chow. So she is a quilt designer and I just and loving her two books right now. In her Instagram, I like her style. So yeah, Wendy Chow, who is an urban modern quilter.

coach chris bennett: 32:42

Urban modern quilter. I didn't I don't even know what that is. That's, that's fantastic. And you're gonna have a link to Wendy Chao?

coach tammie bennett: 32:49

Of course I am.

coach chris bennett: 32:51

You're the best. Do you know that?

coach tammie bennett: 32:54

What do you what's floating your fancy?

coach chris bennett: 32:56

Well, I'll tell you what's floating my fancy since there have been a couple of drives up to Seattle for me in the last few days. I was listening to some podcasts. And one of my favorite historians is a guy by the name of Jon Meacham. And he's got a series of different podcasts. And I'm loving all of them. So he has a few one is called hope through history. He has another one called Reflections of history. And then he has another one called, it was said, All of these are fantastic. We'll have links to most of them, but it was said is about some great speeches, reflections of history are about reflections of certain pivotal moments in history, and then hope through history, which is a great one is about different parts of history, where hope, either was essential, was needed, or was the key out of some dark times. So Jon Meacham, this podcast, if you're a history buff, you should listen to it. And if you're not a history buff, you have an even better reason to start listening to it because you should know your history.

coach tammie bennett: 34:05

And I just want to say there is a reason why you listen to this in the car when I'm not there. Because gross.

coach chris bennett: 34:13

All right, we don't we don't need that we had it was I think the last thing I spoke about was hope. And then you have to go in there and say gross. Did I comment on the last two weeks if you bringing up quilting? You can did not know because I don't think it's gross? Just because I don't understand it. It's I don't think it's gross. And I'm just throwing you under the bus right now. So for all of you quilters I respect you, for all of you historians, I apologize for not

coach tammie bennett: 34:41

saying historian or history lovers or gross I'm just saying that sounds like a terrible ride for me personally, but I'm glad that you like it. And I'm glad that historians love it.

coach chris bennett: 34:52

It's not. Not Not it's not just historians. It's great stories. Told To buy great storytellers. That's basically what all of this is. So if I told you I found a podcast that tells the greatest stories, which by the way, the greatest stories are true, and they come from our history, and they're told by a great storyteller, you'd be like, This sounds amazing. Like maybe Pepsi Challenge. Yeah, I bet Oh, listen to this. If that was amazing, I'm like, Yeah, that's called history.

coach tammie bennett: 35:22

I bet I'll know. I bet I'll know. And I'll be like, Oh, what's this? And they'll be like, dang it. This test failed. Ah,

coach chris bennett: 35:31

I know my petty grievances next week.

coach tammie bennett: 35:34

History haters.

coach chris bennett: 35:35

Yeah. All right. So

coach tammie bennett: 35:37

let's talk about what do we have going on for the week ahead. Since you said next week, on deck, what's on tap?

coach chris bennett: 35:44

What's on deck? what's on tap? Well, I've got another coach than its Podcast coming out on Thursday. And I've got a ton of writing coming up people. So that's, that's basically what I've got coming up. I'm just either going to be in a cave writing, or I'm going to be out there, sharing it in some way, shape, or form. So that's, that's pretty much all I've got. All right. Yeah. How you coach, what do you got going on?

coach tammie bennett: 36:08

Pretty much the same thing. Same thing as you and same thing I had last week. So my podcast comes out tomorrow, when Wednesday. And I'm also just going to be in a writing frenzy for the next six to eight weeks as I prepare to open up my community and a course about choosing a goal and going after a goal in a way that feels really fun and sustainable. That's going to be called goals. 2.3. So yeah, so I feel like I almost just want to say, hey, from here for the next like four or five weeks, I'm going to be talking about the same thing about what's on tap, because we're going to be working on the same thing over and over. But that's okay. That's good. That's fine.

coach chris bennett: 36:49

Yeah, totally fine.

coach tammie bennett: 36:51

All right. Let's call it a day.

coach chris bennett: 36:53

It's a day.

coach tammie bennett: 36:54

Yeah. All right. Thank you for being here. Listener.

coach chris bennett: 36:57

Thanks, everybody. Especially you history lovers out there. Some of us still love you.

coach tammie bennett: 37:02

I love you. It's just not for me said Good for you. Not for me.

coach chris bennett: 37:06

All right, well, on that note, five. That was a D. Get it?

coach tammie bennett: 37:17

Good one. Thank you for hanging out with us today. We hope you subscribe if you haven't already, and we'd love for you to give us a good rating.

coach chris bennett: 37:28

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coach tammie bennett: 37:32

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coach chris bennett: 37:40

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