dog mountain

007.  this episode is called Dog mountain because we're talking about climbing dog mountain. and coming on back down dog mountain.

we also talk about Taylor Swift concert,  tailgaters, small bathrooms, our love of reading, and so much more. 


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Transcript

Unknown: 0:06

Welcome to the to coach Bennett's talking Podcast.

coach tammie bennett: 0:10

I'm Coach Tammie Bennett.

coach chris bennett: 0:12

And I'm Coach Chris Bennett. This is where we talk about

coach tammie bennett: 0:15

anything we want. Anything we want, like movies or music, running, not running life and what gets us excited. Fantasy and sci fi

Unknown: 0:27

books?

coach tammie bennett: 0:28

No, we're not talking about that. Right? Well,

Unknown: 0:32

we'll talk about everything but fantasy and sci fi books.

coach tammie bennett: 0:35

So sit back for keep moving because it's time to start talking.

coach chris bennett: 0:41

Welcome to episode seven of to coach Bennett's talking. This episode is called Dog mountain. Because we're talking about climbing dog mountain. And coming on back down dog mountain. We also talk about Taylor Swift concert tailgaters, small bathrooms, our love of reading, and so much more. Let's get started.

coach tammie bennett: 1:08

Oh, hey, Coach didn't see you there.

coach chris bennett: 1:11

Oh, that's because I don't have my video on but Hey, Coach videos gonna be coming on shortly.

coach tammie bennett: 1:16

What have you been up to?

coach chris bennett: 1:18

Okay, I guess we'll just race to see who gets that first question. And how are you doing?

coach tammie bennett: 1:23

Wait, you didn't say go? Oh, well, new rules.

coach chris bennett: 1:27

There's a new sheriff in town. And the first rule is there are no rules, which is a rule, which is why anarchy makes no sense to me. Okay, how are you doing?

coach tammie bennett: 1:35

So good. How are you?

coach chris bennett: 1:37

Fantastic. How was your week?

coach tammie bennett: 1:40

It was good. But I think before we get into that, I think we should tell people that we are in a hotel room. And one of us is recording in a bathroom. And one of us is recording on a couch.

coach chris bennett: 1:50

Yeah, I guess we could ask them who they think is in which place? Yeah. But I will also say, this will probably be the only time this week that no one's going to bother me while I'm in one of the places. So there's your hand.

coach tammie bennett: 2:06

Okay. Okay, what have you been up to this week?

coach chris bennett: 2:10

Well, I guess we're just going to disregard the fact that I asked you first. But I recently was at the Nike outdoor national championships in Eugene, Oregon. And when as it is known, is the high school national championships for track and field. And it was glorious, because I love track and field. And I love the high school level of track and field. What I don't like are the allergies that Eugene gives me. It's the one place basically that gives me out of control crazy allergy. So other than having a runny nose and bloodshot eyes for three days. It was it was a really good time. How about you?

coach tammie bennett: 2:52

Something that you just said made me think of a petty grievance. But I already have one for today. So I'm gonna write it down and file it away for another time. And I am good. So what I've been up to is while you were at outdoor nationals, I was hanging out and watched a twister with our son hung out with our girls. The sweet Wait,

coach chris bennett: 3:17

wait, wait, the way you phrased it seemed odd like you guys were just watching a tornado. You said we watched a twister. I think

coach tammie bennett: 3:24

we turned into storm chasers while you were gone. That's why there's dents in the car from all the hail. Okay. Okay. What I meant to say was that we sat on the couch and watched the movie called Twister. And 90s from the 90s Has there been a more recent one twist or remake twist or two? Two twisters.

coach chris bennett: 3:45

But if if knows her sister, if nobody knows. The first one they may be wondering like what movie is this? Is it out in the theaters? It's from the 90s Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Great movie. That's all I'm saying. You if you sit on your couch long enough, you're gonna see it on like TBS or something at some point.

coach tammie bennett: 4:07

Yes. So we watch that. Our girls went camping with a bunch of girls in the woods. And they did a major hike, which is foreshadowing to something that we're going to talk about in a few minutes. And the other kind of cool thing that's going on this week is we surprised our daughters with Taylor Swift tickets.

coach chris bennett: 4:25

Yeah, that's that's a big deal. That's massive. It's a big deal. Yeah, it's an I actually just got to slide this in here. I have a good friend who is I'm not gonna say musical snob. He's a musical aficionado, and likes a lot of the bands that I like so we're talking alternative music, rock music, and he went with his daughter. And he said it's probably the best concert he's ever been to, which is some pretty big time laudatory. statements from this guy. So she's whatever she's bringing, it's legit.

coach tammie bennett: 5:06

Yeah, I just know that our girls have not stopped talking since then about what they're going to wear. Because apparently it's a big deal, what you wear to the concerts. And another really cool thing is that T Swift concert goers, where lots and lots and lots of bracelets on their arms that they make. And then they trade them with other concert goers. So they are planning all the bracelets so they can make trades with all the other fans, and it's just going to be so fun.

coach chris bennett: 5:34

Yeah, what was interesting to me, was the kind of community aspect to it that my buddy brought up, he equated it to, again, more high praise to kind of the community vibe that you would get a Dead concerts back in the day, which is pretty nuts. He said, You know, everyone kind of looks out for each other, everybody's dance, and everybody sings every single line to every single song. And, yeah, so anyway, pretty cool that they get to do that and be a part of that, you know, once in a lifetime thing to get to go see maybe the best concert they'll ever see. Or at least the concert that all other concerts will be measured by.

coach tammie bennett: 6:13

I just have to throw out a little thank you to a former client, current friend, Melissa, I had texted her about something. And she said, before I answer your question, I just want to show you where I am. And she was with her daughter, and they were at a Taylor Swift concert waiting to go in. And she had done it kind of on a whim, they were out of state visiting. And they saw that Taylor Swift was there. So they decided to get tickets. And that just made me think why aren't we just doing more things like that. So that's what kind of inspired me to get the tickets. And that former client now friend said, be prepared to not go to the bathroom for three hours because you don't want to miss a single thing.

coach chris bennett: 6:55

Well, you've inspired me. So once I get out of this bathroom that I'm currently in oops, ways out of the bag. Once I get out of this bathroom, figuratively speaking, once I get out of this bathroom, I'm going to do more things. How about that?

coach tammie bennett: 7:11

Great. And I just want to say in case anyone out there listening is upset that Mr. Coach Bennett has to be in the bathroom. I have done my fair share of podcast episodes in the bathroom. So I figured it was time that if he's the one in there, that it's time for him to pay his dues.

coach chris bennett: 7:28

And I just have to say, if anyone's wondering out there, does he make her record her podcast in the bathroom? The answer is no. But I've definitely been made to do the podcast in the bathroom today. So I'm just saying that for the record here. And I'm loving every minute of it. I think this is like a late Father's Day gift. So

coach tammie bennett: 7:52

yeah, like you said, this is the only time you get to be in there for a long time without us, you know, wondering where you are and what you're doing and why you're avoiding us.

coach chris bennett: 8:00

No, I will say the only difference really is we're talking on mics as opposed to you coming up to the door and trying to talk to me through the door or when I'm just really just trying to relax in here.

coach tammie bennett: 8:09

Yeah, this is much more peaceful.

coach chris bennett: 8:12

Are you okay? What's next? Meat and

coach tammie bennett: 8:15

taters? Let's talk about dog mountain.

coach chris bennett: 8:18

Dog mountain. Doesn't it sound like a great movie? Like four friends? Dog mountain. I don't know what the what the story would be.

coach tammie bennett: 8:28

Obviously three friends come back down.

coach chris bennett: 8:32

Four friends Head Up Dog mountain. Three come down. Only ones alive. Like why is carrying two people. Anyway, dog mountain. Is it haunted?

coach tammie bennett: 8:42

In real life?

coach chris bennett: 8:44

Oh, I'm in the movie? No, I don't think so. No, no, they battle locals. It's one of those things where it's like some out of towners come in and little bit like deliverance. Alright, anyway, let's not ruin our story. Or unless I already have dog mountain. What's dog mountain? Why are we talking about dog mountain?

coach tammie bennett: 9:02

Okay, so as I alluded to earlier, our daughters and a couple of their friends went camping overnight, and then the next day they woke up and they went and did a hike on dog mountain. And they came home and they talked about it for days. Mostly every time they walked upstairs because then their legs are killing them because the hike is seven is it seven or seven and a half miles round trip up and back.

coach chris bennett: 9:28

We measured it a seven and a half round trip.

coach tammie bennett: 9:32

And the first half of it is all uphill to the tune of 2800 feet.

coach chris bennett: 9:38

Beyond 2800 feet I think it was I think was over 20 I think we cracked 2800 feet.

coach tammie bennett: 9:43

Okay, yes. So basically 3000 feet straight up into the air and felt like and then having to come back down. And because they talked about so much. I just thought that we should do it for Father's Day.

coach chris bennett: 9:58

Yes. So you heard that correctly, because the daughter's hiked seven and a half miles with their very fit friends, climbing 3000 feet, a seven and a half mile hike. Tammy thought what a great Father's Day gift that would be to make Chris hike 3000 feet seven and a half miles early in the morning on Sunday after he got back from Eugene and Nike outdoor nationals late Saturday night.

coach tammie bennett: 10:32

Yeah, we should have mentioned like the five girls that did this super fit. All of them are members of one of the best track and field cross country teams in the country in high school. And if they were sore and having trouble walking for two days, then what does that say about what was going to happen to us? But yeah, I ran the idea by you. And I said, I think that'd be fun to do for Father's Day. And you agreed?

coach chris bennett: 10:57

Yeah, and I can't. I'm not going to say I didn't agree. I'm also not going to say that I was fully comprehending what you were asking. So I'm pretty sure I was walking into the meet at the time. And as far as I'm concerned, I, you might have been saying let's go get some pizza and wings at a place seven and a half miles away. 3000 feet into the sky. And I'm pretty sure I said that sounds great. So I wasn't totally paying attention.

coach tammie bennett: 11:22

Yeah, I mean, and to be fair, I didn't know what we were getting into, even though I was seeing firsthand the trauma that the girl's legs are going through. Because I don't think anything could have prepared us for the steep inclines that we were on. But it was so beautiful. When we got to the top, what do you think like quarter mile is when it got like the weather got kind of nuts?

coach chris bennett: 11:45

Yeah, it got scary, about a quarter mile from the top.

coach tammie bennett: 11:49

Okay, I also want to point out when our girls and their friends did it, it was a beautiful day. It was nice and warm and sunny, not a cloud in the sky. They could see the Columbia Gorge for so many points along this trip up the mountain. When we went it was not the same. So we had about a quarter mile to go and it a storm kind of came rolling in. I don't know if you call it a storm, but it was really windy, mega clouds rain like that was going sideways like shards of glass into your face. And I need to say windy again. And so it's kind of scary, but really cool, too.

coach chris bennett: 12:24

Yeah, and we're not hikers. So it was it was a little bit unnerving for us. These you are it's a technical trail. You're up along the side of this. I don't know what classifies a mountain or not. It's called Dog mountain. But the trail is very narrow. The wind luckily was pushing us up against the mountain, thank goodness. But there was there were a few moments there where I was thinking, I'm definitely not comfortable right now. But I felt safe. But I was uncomfortable.

coach tammie bennett: 12:57

Yeah, totally. I had the same. And then there was a point where I'm like, but I really want to get to the top we worked hard to get here. I still do feel safe. And I just want to keep pushing through even though it was cold. Our hands. Both of our hands were really cold.

coach chris bennett: 13:11

Yes. And we had heard that when you get to the top. The the views are amazing. So that was also driving us forward. So you want to talk a little bit about how we eventually make it to the top. We turn around. Let everyone know just how amazing those views were.

coach tammie bennett: 13:28

Yeah, it's the same as if you look at a airplane window, and it's just white.

coach chris bennett: 13:32

Yeah, there was just clouds. It was just raining windy. And we did not break through the cloud cover. So somewhere out in the mist was something amazing. We just couldn't see it. Yeah, yeah.

coach tammie bennett: 13:48

I will say on the way back down, we got a cup a little breaks in the clouds just enough for us to get out our cameras and start to take a picture. And then the clouds came back was just a tiny little break, just enough to tease us about like what we could not photograph in the background of our photos. Yes,

coach chris bennett: 14:04

it was worthwhile though. It was awesome. It was in the satisfaction of getting to the top was amazing. But now we have to go back down. And I think this is the funny part. Because as difficult and as exhausting as it was to go up. As runners we know this. Going down is harder.

coach tammie bennett: 14:20

Yes. As coaches. We've coached many, many people telling them that the downhill is so much harder than the up at least on the terms of like the the trashing of the legs. But yeah, this was some serious downhill.

coach chris bennett: 14:32

Yeah, in fact, we couldn't hike down it. We had to actually jog down it because it was too steep to walk and my legs are starting to shake. But before we get into us melting down. I've got a question for you. Well, it's a couple of questions. It's a loaded question. Okay. It took us two over two and a half hours to do.

coach tammie bennett: 14:52

Yep. And three to 20

coach chris bennett: 14:55

I think it was over two and a half hours running time. It was two and a half hours like including stopping for pictures and stuff like that. But it was like, I thought it was like 235 I can look, but I'm pretty sure thing. It's

coach tammie bennett: 15:05

224.

coach chris bennett: 15:06

I'll go at the MacBook. Well, when you're answering, we'll look. My question was, like, all great kind of adventures. And I feel like this was kind of an adventure. There are lessons learned. I'm wondering what were some of the ones you learned on your way up? And then down? Dog mountain?

coach tammie bennett: 15:24

Yeah, I don't know, if it was so much learned is like reminded that if you're looking at the mountain as a whole, it's feels impossible. And maybe even is impossible if you're looking at all the 16,000 steps that you're gonna have to take. And but if you just kind of put your head down a little bit, and just look at where you are this one little segment before you do the next switchback it, it's so doable, and totally, yeah, just doable to break it down segment by segment and only focus on the segment that you're on. It was just a really good reminder. I mean, there were a couple of times where we were like, you know, do you want to just stop for a minute? And I'm like, no, no, we cannot stop in the middle of a segment, we have to get to like a switchback. So it just felt more like you weren't ruining the momentum. And you could just focus to get to that next little switchback. So yeah, breaking it down into chunks makes it so much easier. What about you,

coach chris bennett: 16:16

um, a healthy dose of humility, I think helps. And I don't mean in an in no way, as is anything other than a positive, powerful thing, I think, understanding or reminding myself over and over again, just how difficult this was, and that I was struggling, and that it was hard. And I was putting in work actually gave me the strength to keep going. So I think if I was constantly saying, why can I do this, I should be able to handle this. This isn't hard. It's just another uphill. I was celebrating how hard it was. And I was actually telling you a couple times, like, wow, this is a reminder that like, running is not hiking. And running hills does not mean that you can just do a technical trail on a hike. It's that humility, that I think made it a little bit more exciting, but also gave me oddly enough more energy when I was saying, Wow, this is really, you know, sapping my energy, it was creating more energy for me to go. So I think when you're taking on something difficult humility, sometimes, I think is Miss Miss misrepresented as like, a lack of confidence. And I don't think that's it at all. I think the humility actually was part of why I was able to do dog mountain.

coach tammie bennett: 17:37

Yeah, I think this touches back to two comments that we've talked about before. One is that it is humbling to be a human against nature, not that we were against nature, but just the size of us, compared to the size of this mountain was really humbling. And so humility, kind of in that way, were like, Man, this thing just is gonna keep going up whether we want to go up to it or not. So that was just always kind of, I don't know, there's something always beautiful about that, to me of just we're one tiny little speck in this universe on this planet. And other thing that we've talked about before is there can be fun had in the heart. It can be so hard that you're just laughing together and groaning and moaning and complaining in the best way. I mean, there was one point where I'm like, What is even fun about this? Right?

coach chris bennett: 18:27

Yes. And that that helped dramatically. It broke up, I think, a really, really long uphill that we were doing that was very steep. And that laughter really helped. It relaxed me a little because I was struggling. And I think I was getting so into the struggle that I was, I was getting close to starting to have like some negative, you know, commentators bouncing around in my head. So when I heard you say that, it just broke me up. And we realized that that is what's fun. It is going through this and realizing like this is a really brutal Hill. What are we doing? Yeah, like on the way down a couple times, we said, you know, how are you doing? I'm like, Just super ready for this to be over. And then we

coach tammie bennett: 19:06

were just laughing. Because we meant it in the best way. And like, and I posted about this on my Instagram and one of the five girls that had gone on the trip with our daughters messaged me and she was like, oh, em, gee, wasn't it so fun and so brutal. She wrote it all in caps, so like 10 Exclamation marks. And that's so true. Yes, the fun comes from the brutality of it. The fun comes from the struggle and that you survived and you made it to the bottom, you're like, look at what we just did. Like, we instantly looked at our Garmin and Strava. And we're like looking at the stats of like, how many steps and how much altitude and all that and there's something so cool about knowing that you just did that.

coach chris bennett: 19:43

And you know what another thing which I thought was super cool was the different type of people that we're doing it because, again, this goes back a little bit to the humility but it also goes back to you know, in some ways, we fall into the trap of thinking You know, if it's hard for me, then it must be hard for everyone. And I learned this when I got hurt 20 years ago, and I had to get on a bike. And I remember I thought I was so fit because I was so fit for a runner. And there was a guy who was twice my age who came up behind me and flew by me and patted me on the back as he was biking by me and said, like, keep it up, like I would say, to someone who just started running. And this this guy is was older than I am now. And at the time, I was 24. And I was super fit, but it was a different type of exercise. And we saw lots of different types of people, ages, and just handling this really, really well. I mean, when we were coming back down, we saw a couple that's gotta be 1520 years older than us. And they were just chillin, about to head up to do the last quarter mile, they had their hiking gear. And I thought that is really awesome. Because if I saw them at the bottom of the hill, after we had done it, I think they're gonna have a really hard time. And they were crushing it. So it was just really neat to see different people, finding things that they enjoy that are also challenging, but if I just saw them on the street, and I didn't know them, I wouldn't realize just how badass and extraordinary they are. It's just like, you don't know what hard things people are going through. You also don't know how badass some people are. Yeah, so true. Okay, I've got another lesson learned. Or maybe it's something I already knew. And it was more of a reminder to remember again, that I'd like to, to just say real quick.

coach tammie bennett: 21:40

You're going to tell us?

coach chris bennett: 21:41

Well, there was just the pause there where I was hoping you were going to like, you know, take the bait and say, Wow, tell me, okay, so we were going up the hill. And this is maybe two thirds of the way in, I'm struggling a bit, I think I mentioned, oh, I'm starting to feel this in my hip flexors, because your hip flexors helped lift up your legs. And I remember thinking, I wonder if, you know, one day a week, instead of going for a really easy run in the summer, you take your team and you do something like this, you do like a long hike. And because it's working you a little bit differently, and there's less pounding, long story short, the point was, because I was struggling on the hike, and it was taxing parts of my body in ways that a normal run would not. I started to think about how important it is to be an athlete, and not just a runner, to be well rounded as an individual, and not have some tunnel vision to keep you in an open mind. It's just one of those things where the hike was reminding me at first initially from an athlete perspective, but it's really it's for a human perspective, that you have to be challenging yourself taxing yourself, adding to your repertoire of talents, learning more, and not just doing the same thing over and over and overdone because it will also make you do the things that you do over and over and over again better. If you can add some diversity to what you're doing. That's what dog Mountain was teaching me.

coach tammie bennett: 23:10

Yeah, I love that. I don't have anything to add.

coach chris bennett: 23:13

Fantastic. That's when I know I'm doing a good job. Okay, so I'm still sore. You're still sore. It's a worthy soreness. I feel like we earned something fantastic with that beyond the physical side. So thank you, dog mountain. Thank you, Bennet girls for doing the hike with your teammates and and passing on dog mountain to us.

coach tammie bennett: 23:35

Yeah, it feels so much better to be sore from this than it does from sitting or sleeping. Like in Episode past.

coach chris bennett: 23:42

Yes, yes, absolutely worthy work. All right. What's the next

coach tammie bennett: 23:47

let's bring it down. Oh, petty grievances. petty grievances.

coach chris bennett: 23:51

Yes. Okay. You go leave us off.

coach tammie bennett: 23:56

Okay, mine has to do with our bathroom. And we are we have a very, very tiny bathroom. And we are fortunate enough to have two sinks, which I very much appreciate, although I would like a little more counter space. But here's my petty grievance. We have one drawer that spans the width of the two sinks. So when we are side by side getting ready for bed, you're doing your contacts and we're brushing her teeth. I need to get in that drawer. And in order to do so I have to make you back up back up back up and it's kind of I don't want to be annoying, but it feels annoying to have to make you move the whole thing. I just want my own drawers without having to make you move.

coach chris bennett: 24:35

Okay, I don't think that's too much of a petty grievance. Honestly,

coach tammie bennett: 24:39

why isn't it well, because

coach chris bennett: 24:40

it's it's you're actually being apologetic about the situation. No, it

coach tammie bennett: 24:44

bothers me. Yeah, I know I get a little bit angry every time I have to like ask you nicely to move so I can open the drawer.

coach chris bennett: 24:54

You get you get angry when you have to act nice.

coach tammie bennett: 24:59

No, but I Get angry. And I have to agonize. No, I get angry that I have to ask you to move. And I'm nice about it. But I'm still a little bit angry inside that I can't just open it at my freewill anytime I want without having to wait for you to move and have you move over?

coach chris bennett: 25:14

Yeah, well, I'll let you know. I sense that. Which is why often when I see you coming in, to do things, I kind of slip out and you're wondering, why is he brushing his teeth in the middle of the bedroom, or the hallway.

coach tammie bennett: 25:26

I know. The other reason why is because we have like, we look into our mirror, but it opens up into like, some shelves and I have all my face skincare products in there. And I like to do one at a time with my shelf open so that I like to stand in front of your mirror so that I can have my shelf open and just reach for my products one at a time and look in the mirror. And but if you're there, I can't do it and you your hand reaches out quite often to shut my mirror door because it bothers you that it's open. And so yeah, I think maybe the solution to my petty grievance is that we just get ready for bed at different times.

coach chris bennett: 26:02

Okay, all right, that one. I thought that was done like five minutes ago, but it just kept going. All right. What's yours? People who tailgate on the highways. Hmm, yeah. And it's not even. There are aggressive tailgaters, the people that are speeding and being a jerk and get out of the way just so they can, you can move to the right, and then they can just speed. There are other people who don't want to pass you. But they will be two, three yards behind your car. And I just, it's dangerous. It's annoying. And it makes me think that the person is completely oblivious. It stresses me out. I don't like tailgaters. So if you're someone who drives, just remember, there is no benefit to being a meter or two meters behind someone else's car. Just give them the space. You will be safer, they will be safer, and we will have a happier road. So mine is quick. Mine is short, but tailgaters of the world. Don't unite. Stop.

coach tammie bennett: 27:17

That's it. Okay, let's move on to the mailbag. Okay, so while you're getting a question ready, I would like to give a shout out to Chrissy Jackson for sending us a four and a half pound bag of sour gummy candies. Thank you so much, Chrissy, that was really nice of you. And for you, listeners, we are welcoming your question. So send them into the mailbag. The address is in the show notes. We would love to read your question out loud on the podcast and answer it.

coach chris bennett: 27:48

Okay, this one comes from a friend of ours. And that's why it's a little bit bizarre. It's, let's see here, let me find it so I can read it perfectly. Okay. Chris, and Tammy. What is the weirdest or grossest thing you've ever eaten? Okay. Do you have an answer? I do. Okay, what is it? Let's go.

coach tammie bennett: 28:14

So this goes back many years to when we would rent a house in the Outer Banks with my family. So I have five younger siblings, and my mom and we would all just rent a house and hang out for several days at the beach, and I was eating ice cream. Mint Chocolate Chip Breyers brand if you must know best ice cream. And it like had this weird tastes like garlic. So I had another bite. I'm like, Man, this really tastes like garlic. Had another bite. And I finally flipped over the spoon. And there was like a hunk of dried like garlic and parmesan cheese or something that had just like dried onto the spoon. It's so gross. I can't even think about it. I can't even think about it. But it it ruined that night of ice cream for me and it still makes my stomach hurt.

coach chris bennett: 29:05

That's horrible. And for the record, you're not quite sure what was on the bottom of that spoon? Can we just confirm that there is no confirmation?

coach tammie bennett: 29:12

Oh, no, I I was I know exactly. It was on there. I just told you.

coach chris bennett: 29:16

Are you sure though? Because it's frozen. It could have been any number of things that wasn't

coach tammie bennett: 29:20

frozen. It was baked on? No, no, it wasn't in the ice cream. It was on the spoon.

coach chris bennett: 29:24

Oh, so it was just on the splints. You had some garlic flavored mint chocolate chip ice creams gusting Wow. There's worse things to eat. Like what? Well, I mean, I've eaten a few insects. In my time. I've had this was not like me in the backyard eating a cricket but I had some crickets. I believe they were crickets when I was in Mexico City recently. But mine similar to yours. It was accidental. We went out to eat. I believe it was in North Carolina also when we were dating and we're having great conversations and waitress comes over. I ordered my cheeseburger. And the conversation continued was fantastic. We're really having a great conversation, which is important because I wasn't thinking about what I ordered. And the food arrives. And I'm excited I put, I like putting ketchup on my burgers, I put ketchup on the roll. Okay. And then I took a bite and you know, the texture of a burger, ground beef. Okay. Well, I had not ordered a cheeseburger. I had actually ordered a chicken sandwich. And the texture of chicken is strikingly different. So when I bit in thinking, this was going to be a burger. And the texture was not I thought I was eating a rotten piece of meat. And I started to gag at the table. And like, I spit out the food and I freaked out. I'm like, oh my god, they gave me like a rancid burger. And I realized it was actually just a perfectly made chicken spicy chicken sandwich with lettuce on it. I just didn't realize that the lettuce was blocking the burger or blocking the chicken sandwich. I've been into it and almost freaked out and lost it. I had ruined most of it because I don't put chicken on ketchup. That's disgusting. I mean, ketchup on chicken. If you do that, that's just you got to stop yourself. That's horrible. You can put mustard on chicken, but you can put ketchup on chicken. Anyway, one more story.

coach tammie bennett: 31:27

Oh, boy, did you order the burger or the chicken? Because you said both. I ordered

coach chris bennett: 31:31

the chicken but because the conversation was so good. I wasn't thinking and somewhere in the conversation in my head. It shifted to you ordered a cheeseburger. So I was expecting a cheeseburger. Even though I had ordered a chicken sandwich. It was not the waitresses fault. She nailed the order.

coach tammie bennett: 31:47

Like this is just back in the day when I sometimes called you the absent minded professor and you got angry, but they kind of make sense.

coach chris bennett: 31:55

Yeah, I think I initially was just focusing on the fact that she's calling me a professor. And I wasn't focusing on the absent minded part. Or maybe I just forgot that you called me absent minded.

coach tammie bennett: 32:05

What was your other story?

coach chris bennett: 32:07

Okay, so the other story was I was very little. And I didn't know what I was doing. But I had access to stuff in the kitchen and I made myself a sandwich. I didn't know what I was doing. I must have been like five. And I made myself a mayonnaise sandwich. I don't like mayonnaise. But I think maybe commercials or something. I just thought this is what you do. I made the man a sandwich. I got very ill. I was so grossed out by it. And the reason why this is actually a nice story. The four out of five kids the oldest is my sister Suzanne. She made me raisin toast with butter later on that night to kind of make me feel a little bit better than I think that was the nicest she was to me for like 10 or 15 years growing up. So I haven't had mayonnaise since. But that is a nice story with my sister.

coach tammie bennett: 32:59

So and you pass it on to me because you make me raisin toast with butter on lots and lots of days. So you're just passing on the Faber.

coach chris bennett: 33:08

Yeah, and it's not after you're having many sandwiches either. So

coach tammie bennett: 33:12

never have a man a sandwich. No, don't

coach chris bennett: 33:14

we do not recommend Mani sandwiches. It was an absolute bomb.

coach tammie bennett: 33:19

Rose. Okay, let's talk about what's floating our fancy.

coach chris bennett: 33:23

You kick this one off. It's floating your fancy Tammy

coach tammie bennett: 33:27

the show? Never have I ever it's on Netflix. I love me some high school teen drama slash comedies. Last romance. It's so good. Mindy Kaling is one of the writers. It's a little crass. So if you are can I say prudish? So it's not for everybody. But it is for me. And I watched all of season four in a matter of two days, and it's so good. I appreciate it very much. Okay, so

coach chris bennett: 33:59

it floated your fancy.

coach tammie bennett: 34:02

It's still floating it because I'm still thinking about some of the Yeah,

coach chris bennett: 34:06

there was like a high after it. Yeah. Great. That's awesome. Well, my, what's floating my fancy right now is reading. Because I went through a long period for the first time in many, many, many years where I was struggling. Reading. I'm a voracious reader. I read about 25 to 30 books a year. I love reading. I went through this patch for some reason, where I was just struggling. And the struggles are over and I am back in the books. Now one thing I am doing, which is I'm kind of going rogue on myself here. If I'm reading a series, I don't like to read a second series at the same time. So I'm always reading two books and nonfiction and a fiction. But if I'm reading a fiction series, three or four or five books, I won't start another series until I'm done with all five of those books. but I'm about to start wool, which is the silo series. And I'm reading a Robert Jordan series. And I have this other night I forget the name of it, but it's another show. So I've three different series going on at the same time, and I'm reading Malachy McCourt's history of Ireland. That's my nonfiction book. So I'm so excited. I love reading. We're back in love. It's wonderful. That's it. That's what's floating my fancy baby.

coach tammie bennett: 35:27

Yeah, my love for reading has been recharged too. I think both of us went through a slump at the same time. And I am still four books behind my goal on Goodreads. I think my goal this year was 30, which is a low year for me. But yeah, it's fun to have us both reading a lot again.

coach chris bennett: 35:45

It is. So cheers to all of you authors out there. Thank you. Thank you for for, for making us happy with all these darn books. Okay,

coach tammie bennett: 35:54

what do I have in it? Next

coach chris bennett: 35:55

is what's next? Oh, you have something

coach tammie bennett: 35:57

going on? Just gonna have an idea. If he if the readers out there have finished a book that they loved and want to recommend to it. They could just send it to us in the mailbag. Absolutely. I feel like we're kind of good on sour gummies. For what, for a bit. Thanks to Kevin and Chrissy. But we would welcome your your used books.

coach chris bennett: 36:18

You know, it would actually be a great show. I know we're dragging this out right now. But you know, it would be a great show. If readers just sent us questions about types of books. I've done this on Instagram before, why say? What kind of books are you interested in? Tell me a genre or a theme or something like that. And I'll give you a book recommendation.

Unknown: 36:36

People could send in like, Hey, I'm

coach chris bennett: 36:38

looking for a horror book, or I want a teen romance book, or I want a book about baseball players or I want a historical fiction book. And they can ask us and we'll answer. Great. Maybe the whole show. One whole episode, one whole episode, just boom, just just give 20 3040 book recommendations. Okay, what's coming up? Well,

coach tammie bennett: 37:02

I probably can answer for both of us because we're both here. Right now. We are both speaking at the Wildwood running clinic in Naperville. Indiana.

coach chris bennett: 37:13

No, and it's Illinois. Okay,

coach tammie bennett: 37:16

I get my states confused. I'm sorry, friends. Yeah. But tomorrow, we are speaking to high school running coaches. And then Wednesday, we are speaking to female high school runners. And we're both really excited. We're talking about we're speaking two different things. But that's going to be really fun.

coach chris bennett: 37:36

Yep. And we'll put the link up to Wildwood and some of the programs that they put on in the show notes so you can check it out yourself.

coach tammie bennett: 37:43

There we go. That's all we got.

coach chris bennett: 37:45

Yeah. All right. Super excited.

coach tammie bennett: 37:49

Now you can come out of the bathroom.

coach chris bennett: 37:52

Finally, the one time I actually want to get out of the bathroom, you know. All right. Well,

coach tammie bennett: 37:58

I guess this is it. Right? Yeah. Thanks for being here. Listener.

coach chris bennett: 38:02

Thanks, everybody. Thanks for spending time with me in the bathroom and Tammy on the comfortable couch. It's not comfortable,

coach tammie bennett: 38:08

but it is a couch. Well, it's more

coach chris bennett: 38:10

comfortable than the toilet. Have a great week. Till next time.

coach tammie bennett: 38:16

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coach tammie bennett: 38:27

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coach chris bennett: 38:44

And yes, for the record, Tammie was correct. It took us two hours and 24 minutes to complete dog mountain going up and going down. I concede