Two Coach Bennetts Talking

community for the win

tammie bennett, chris bennett Episode 6

006.  We're talking about the power of community and the essential need for all of us to be a part of one. We've got our petty grievances. Can anyone say fake Southern accents? The worst? At least according to tammie, they are.
We answer a great question about the dumbest way we ever got injured.
We talk pinball machines and the Miami running community.

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Welcome to the to coach Bennett's talking Podcast. I'm Coach Tammie Bennett. And I'm Coach Chris Bennett. This is where we talk about anything we want. Anything we want, like movies or music, running, not running life and what gets us excited. Fantasy and sci fi books? No, we're not talking about that. All right, well, we'll talk about everything but fantasy and sci fi books. So sit back or keep moving because it's time to start talking. This is episode six of to coach Bennett's talking. And what are we talking about? Great question. We're talking about the power of community and the essential need for all of us to be a part of one. We've got our petty grievances. Can anyone say fake Southern accents? The worst? At least according to Tammie, they are. We answer a great question about what was the dumbest way we ever got injured? We talked pinball machines. We talked the Miami running community. And we talked about so much more. So let's get started. Hello, Coach, how are you doing? So good. I'm so good to hear that you're doing so good. How was your week? Ah, you know, I actually got a lot for you. My Week was great. I visited Miami for the first time ever, which was shocking to me, actually, when I had told people that I'd never been to Miami before I had to pause a little bit and think later, is that true? Because somehow I'd never been to Miami. So I was in Miami for global Running Day, which was a fantastic experience. I think we're going to talk about that more later. I think so too. I think so to tell me a little bit about your week. How have you been? What have you been up to? Um, I said on the last podcast that I was planning on going to the beach and I did not go to the beach. Woof. I got overtaken with a sense of laziness, and I parked myself on the couch and I binged some TV, which I'll talk about later. Okay. I don't see anything wrong with that. Yeah, I there was nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you just still there right? Still there. Okay, are you planning on going sometime soon, though? I hope Yes. I'm not going to jinx it and say what day? Okay, fair enough. You believe in jinxes? Mm hmm. Okay. I'm not totally sold on jinxes. I'm not either. It was just fun to say that word is a good word. What word is that? Gene Jinx. Ah, no. Yeah, it was before you I was before you know. All right, well, we'll have to go to the listeners and see who won that battle. And then whoever lost can't speak until obviously, they're allowed out of the jinx prison. But you're editing the podcast so you can actually change what voice was heard first in the editing process. So it's not really fair at all. I think you know that. I'm not one. I'm not that good at editing yet. And two. I also have a little bit of some sloth inside me and I'm not going to bother with that nonsense. Okay. What are we talking about today? Well, it's actually each one with the meat and taters. Yeah. Okay, well, the meat and taters are is inspired by my trip to Miami. And it's really just about the absolute necessity. The importance of having a great community in your life, whatever that may be. It could be a community of 800 people, it could be a community of three people. It could be a community of two, somewhere in between. It's just having community and how important it is and different ways that can show up. Because I went down to Miami, I was invited by Frankie Ruiz, who I feel is like the mayor of Miami running to take part in a couple of global Running Day events. And the first night at a run that he's been doing for years and years and years, every Tuesday night and the Burchill area of Miami had over 100 people come out to it. And they were so awesome. And you know what it's like when you get around, especially with runners, but really any really good community, how welcoming they were, how friendly they were, how you feel like you can take on the world when you have these people in front of you and to the left and right of you and behind you. And it was such a wonderful experience. It was such a high, you know, and coming back from Miami, we spoke about it and I'll tell you what, one of the first communities I thought of, for whatever reason was actually the group of middle school girls you coached a few years ago. Do you remember this? You had this incredible group have girls running track. And to me watching how they competed and how they worked with each other, and just the general vibe of that collection of girls that to me that I was thinking, that's a great community. And I wanted to ask you about that, like, how did that get built? Because to me, that's, that is always like exhibit a when I'm thinking of a really powerful, positive community. Yeah, well, I think, to me, some of the pillars of having a great community and this this shows up in my coaching, whether it be coaching runners or coaching, you know, life coaching groups, is that you have to normalize and welcome the wins, and the losses, the feels, the setbacks, you have to normalize, wanting to be good, you have to normalize being good. And so I think that that's what I always tried to show in my groups, and especially with those young runners is, we are here to kick ass. And we are here to dance around and play and make funny videos on the infield. And we are here to have workouts where we feel like shit, and we don't let it get us down. We're just like, oh, man, that was a tough one. I felt like crap today. And we just celebrate it because we if it if we normalize that some days, you're gonna feel like crap. It you don't you can't make it be that something's wrong with you, which is like humans have the tendency when something's going wrong, we make it be that it's our fault, or that we're doing something wrong. But when you see all the other people in the group have had that experience that sometimes, then you don't turn it against yourself. You're just like, oh, this is normal, like it's normal to have a bad day sometimes. And then you don't feel so alone. And I just, I think that's just fostering that in a group is what creates that community. So in a way, I'm hearing and I agree beyond, can you go beyond 100%? When you agree with something? I think so well, if you can't, then I agree. 100%. But if you can I agree more than 100%. That you're it's important. If you want a strong community to create a place where it's safe to do all of those things that you said, right, like it's safe to fail, but it's also safe to say I want to win. And it's also safe to say I need some help. It's also safe to, you know, like you said dance and have fun and also be serious if you want to it's just it's a place to be safe with whatever you're bringing to the table that day. Yeah, and I want to emphasize Well, I mean, they're, they're so important all the ends of the spectrum, the winning and the the loss, the loss and the losing. But I it was something that I learned when I coached with the power men Track Club, they have a youth group. And a lot of their professional runners would show up, sometimes they helped coach a little bit, sometimes they showed up to hang out. But I remember when they came with a world championship medal to show the kids, and there was something so cool about normalizing that you can win medals. Maybe you might not be after a world championship medal, maybe your medal is going to be in the local road race or a rec league or who knows what, but just normalizing medals. And then Colleen Quigley and Shalane were part of this at the time, and they were both stating big goals they had for themselves. And they were saying them before they achieve them and telling the world what they wanted to do. And I thought that was so powerful for these young girls and the and the guys too, but to just see people saying, I want to do something really big, and I'm not scared to tell you and I might not do it. But I'm gonna give it my all and trying and it's I might not do it. But I'm still going to just stand out here and profess loudly what I want to do. And I think there's something so powerful about seeing that and normalizing that you can have big goals and that you can state them out loud, even if you might not achieve them was so cool. Yeah, and the other thing, which I'd be interested to hear why you think this was the case, but I during this, you know watching these, these meats because we had kids on the middle school team, I got to be a fan and not a coach, which was a lot of fun for me. I just got to hang out on the backstretch and really pay attention and really see things that I don't normally get to see, as a coach. It seemed to me that this group that was wildly successful, like wildly successful, but they also seemed like they were having more fun than anybody else. And it was to me, I loved that part. Because I've always thought that sometimes people think like, we gotta sacrifice one, like, if you're having fun, then you're not gonna win or if you're winning, you can also have fun and I was like this is beat Matt to crap because the people that are having the most fun are also really successful. And they also were, you know, they wanted to take themselves seriously. But at the same time they knew that this was For an awful lot of fun, and they were also, which I know you've brought up and this would be the next thing I know, I'm asking like nine questions in one. But the last thing was how important it was that they support each other, and they can compete with each other. Okay, so I'm going to sparse out two separate questions in there. The first one is, I think, and both of us coach this way. And I think this way, that having fun is an essential part to success. And I think that that was the atmosphere that I, you know, I always chose to coach young kids because I wanted to coach kids that were our kids. I wanted our kids to grow up in an atmosphere where running was fun. Because for me when I was a child, and started early running wasn't fun all the time. So because I wanted to always be around our kids and be one of their coaches. I coached young kids for 14 years are coached of all ages for 14 years. But one of my biggest goals was for them to know that this was a fun sport, and that it's unsustainable, if it's not fun. And so it was just as important to me to have them doing like the would you call it like the Patty cake, patty cake, like kind of things like hand jive things, and like filming Tiktok dances like that part of practice was just as important to me as the really hard workouts that I gave them. And it's really funny, because you and I have noticed in one of our kids in particular, if they're having fun, like while they're doing the warm ups, and they're smiling and laughing and kind of dancing around, we're like, Oh, it's on, this kid's gonna have a great race today. And I just wanted to talk about this former second. Our son, I remember very specifically, I think I even did a podcast episode about this. But he his first, his first season in college, he went to a razor in his first 10k in cross country, and I remember being at the meet, and he looked over, and he smiled and waved during the race. And I was like what is going on, because that is not a typical occurrence. And he had his best race ever at the time. Like at the time, that was his best race ever. And I just use that as an example of when you are having fun, you just perform better. And that doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt. It just means that you're having fun hurting sometimes. And I think it's you know, we were just watching NCAA A's and the winner of the girl from Harvard. It was at the 5k It was the 1500. Okay. My Ramsden? Yeah, yes. So in her post race interview, she said that last year, she was taking everything so seriously, and was kind of rigid about training and racing. And then it just sort of took the fun out of it. And so her goal for this year was to have more fun and more enjoyment and practice and racing. And she did that. And she won. And it's just, you know, I actually had a parent tell me that they were upset with a coach for saying, you know, go out there and have fun, like, let's just play around and see what happens. And they were so furious. And they're like, What kind of advice is that? And I'm like, it's the best advice you could give. That's what that is. Because I just believe we both believe that you can play and have fun while you are pushing yourself and pushing your body to the limits. And it's just such an important part. If you want to sustain it, if you want to sustain this effort. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you can, that's one of the secrets, if there's anyone out there that's trying to coach kids, or maybe you're trying to get more out of your training. If you can somehow convince people that the hardest challenges and the toughest stuff is fun, then there's no end to what you can get them to do. Like that's that's, and that was one of the things that I always loved watching was, I would see these kids and you'd say, Wow, that's they're pulling off some really amazing things. But they're having fun. And to me, one of the biggest issues I always had with watching how track and field and cross country was coached was the fact that I grew up playing lots of sports. And as hard as basketball practice was, it was fun. Even when we were getting yelled at by the coach, basketball was fun. When we were playing baseball, baseball was fun, no matter how hard the practice was. And for whatever reason, when track and field or cross country got hard, it ceased being fun when it was being coached the wrong way. It just, it was just a chore and to your point, you're never going to be able to sustain the effort and the passion if it suddenly is becoming more of a chore than a joy or a release. So but I have another question for you. Can I ask you another question? Yeah, I had one more thing to say about that. But we can move on because it's no no, no, no, no. Do it, do it and then and then I'll ask you the question. I just wanted to point out that fun, does not mean you're not training hard. So when I first started coaching youth, the coach Before me, they coach their youth by playing games like Sharks and Minnows, which is like a version of tag. And I didn't do that. I'm like, No, we're going to learn the sport of cross country. And we're going to learn the sport of track. We're not going to be here to play tag. And I treated them like real track athletes, real cross country athletes, we did real workouts we did hill repeats fun things like that. But there were no more games, because I feel like that almost dumbed it down, that you think that you can only have fun if you're playing like games like tag. And so I just I just wanted to sign doesn't mean that you're not doing real workouts, you can do real workouts that are really challenging and have them be a lot of fun. Yes, I agree with that. Also, if I can go over 100%, it's over 100%. And that, that even goes back to what I was saying about basketball, right? Like basketball practice. We weren't, you know, playing, I know that you had a coach that once made you do Krav soccer as a workout, like that's not a real workout, like, and to your point, it kind of dumbs it down. It makes it illegitimate, it almost makes it like the actual sport is absolutely zero fun. And if we try to do it for too long, you're not going to like it. And if I actually really show it to you, you're going to hate it and you're going to run away. And that's the opposite of what it should be. It should be this is fun and challenging yourself. And going on an easy run is a way for you to get to know your teammates and doing a great interval workout is fun, because running fast is fun. And it's scary to run fast. And like those are the types of things that kids buy into and like, oh, okay, I do want to go to practice. Just for the same reasons I wanted to go to basketball, and soccer and baseball because I liked the challenge of it. I liked the competition. I liked working hard because it was fun. And I wanted to get better. I mean, that was the other reason why you went to practice, you went to basketball practice, and you went to baseball practice over and over again. Because you did you want it to get better. For whatever reason, our sport sometimes screws that up, because I think people don't trust that the sport is actually essentially a lot of fun. Yeah, I just wanted to bring it real quick back to community is that when you are in something together, when you are together, and you get through a tough workout, and you're panting and hands over knees and laying on the ground and sweating your head off together that just strengthens that sense of human community because you've all survived something together. And I think that's what probably the people in Miami are feeling like after they go for a run. And it's really hot, or you know, a tough workout or something, it bonds them even that much more. And that's what was happening for the teams that I coached is we got through it. And I told them what badass as they were for getting through this really tough workout. And they felt like champs and they did it together. And so yeah, just, you know, bringing it back to the sense of community. I think that's what strengthens it. I agree. Totally. And I think that's, you know, if you ask someone, you know, define a great community, I would imagine somebody in a family feud style where they got like the top answers, one of the top two answers is either going to be supportive or helpful like that, like when you when you think about like what makes a great community. And if you think of that no matter what, whether it was a community of friends, or it's literally your neighborhood, if you're thinking about what makes a great community, I would imagine almost everyone is thinking it's a community that that helps each other. And I think that's kind of what we're getting at instead of like, you have a really great team and a team that's really supportive of each other. And they allow you to be you and they allow you to fail and they allow you to you know, and they celebrate you when you do something great. And that's what I saw in Miami, I saw this group that passing each other they were saying Good job going the opposite way. They were saying Good job. They were high fives at the end, there were hugs they were they were people that noticed people that hadn't been there, in let's say, a couple of weeks, which is a really good feeling that someone knows that you weren't there. And at the same time you have people saying, like, Hey, how did how did the doctor's appointment go? Or, you know, how's your calf feeling? These little things have just you noticed me, you see me? I'm not invisible. And I think you know, and I talked about this with a lot of the people there, it feels really good to help out. And that's also what a community does. It's not just people helping you, it's you have the opportunity to help others, which I think is part of the recipe for a great community. Which leads me to my next question. This is amazing how this worked. I was going to say what are the three to four top doesn't mean that there aren't more ingredients to you. Top three to four ingredients. If you're trying to build a successful, great community. On the spot on the spot, you got to be a chef here. We've made so many great communities you have to know not just what all the ingredients are. I think the hard part is, I'm asking you to just name the top three to four Yeah, I mean, I guess inclusivity like everybody belongs here. And that touches on what you were just saying, like, you absolutely belong here. I think a support and all of the things. So I think supporting in the trying like that you support each other for making big efforts, and you encourage pickup big efforts, whether or not that ends in a winning result or a loss or a fail, because that's what we're here for. Because if you can celebrate the trying, celebrate that you went after it, then you're going to try more often and try more things. Which means mathematically, you're going to have more wins. The more you try, the more you put yourself out there. And the more you go for the shot, or the more you go for that, you know, PR in the race, the more times you try, the more wins you're gonna have. So let's celebrate each other for trying no matter what the outcome is. That's huge. Yeah, PB not PR, but that's okay. We can we can fix that later. Yeah. Okay, so go ahead. You got two more ingredients. I don't know if I have two more. I mean, I think if you're inclusive, and if you're supporting each other win, lose, try fail all the things in the middle. I mean, I, I think that's all there is. I think each person has to be willing to show up and to feel safe to show up. But I think if you're part of supporting and including, yeah. So on the spot, I'm writing about a loss. Yeah, my loss for the other two? I think you actually answered it better than I even expected because you said I don't need four, I got two. And maybe that's why you were able to build so many because it wasn't complicated. It wasn't. We need 27 Different ingredients. It's be inclusive and support each other. And those are pretty big umbrellas, both of those and they got a lot of stuff underneath. So nice. Okay. See, and we talked for probably a little bit longer than I thought about this, and you were so efficient with the recipe. Boom. Perfect. We're back on track. Do you have anything else to add? What you would have no. Community? No. And this is the benefit of doing something with you. Because I don't disagree with anything you said. And in fact, I I, I only agree. I think as people that are looking for a community to be a part of I think your you want to be looking for those ingredients. And if you want to build your own community, I think it's as easy. As Tammie just said, that being said, just because it's easy, in terms of this is what you need. I think the hardest part is that is what you said about the showing up. Like if you want to build a community, then you're gonna have to be the one that's always there. So you are including people, until the community can kind of do this on its own, you're going to have to be the one that is supporting people, when maybe the community is not strong enough to be supporting itself. And if we bring this back to Miami, that's why I'm, I'm just so impressed with what Frankie Ruiz has done in Miami, and so much of it is because he has shown up year after year after year, Tuesday after Tuesday, after Tuesday and Thursday after Thursday, in so many different places building this and inclusive, a supportive environment. But first, it starts with somebody showing up and inviting people to be a part of it. So if there is a hard part it is it is what is always the hard part. It's consistently showing up. So that's the only thing I would add to it. Yeah, that's so interesting. I'm just gonna plug a future thing of mine since we're talking about showing up in communities his that's the thing I'm working on for my big goal for this year is to have a community where people can show up since my podcast is the show up society. But that is something that I'm working very seriously on and putting so much thought into is to create an online community where people can come support each other. So anyway, just think it's funny that you said show up because it's my my community is going to be called the show up society. So yeah, that's what I'm working on. There you go full circle. Okay. Now I usually screw this up. And I forget what's next. But can I just guess is it what's floating our fancies? No petty grievance, petty grievance, we always bring it down. That's right before we bring it back up. Okay, fine. All right. Well, do you have a petty grievance? I do. Let's go. Fake Southern accents. I can't take it. So I grew up my whole life, North Carolina. And I cannot watch shows no matter how much I want to I remember like, I think it was The Vampire Diaries I read or whatever, how many books it was like 12 books or something. And then it became a show and I couldn't get through a single episode because they had one character with the fakest southern accent and I couldn't take it. I can't take it. So that's it. You don't want to tell us any more about what you're probably As with them silver accent Oh my gosh, I can't. Is that pretty close? No. Hey, you need to get your all changed. I need a new pair of boots. I love Southern accents. Well, I said fake Southern accents. There's no difference. Sure. I think fake accents. crack me up the real accents crack me up. And I don't think I have an accent but the kids make fun of me sometimes when I say things so, like milk. I say milk. Yes. The way I say milk. It looks like it filled me. Okay, as opposed to milk. Would you like some milk? I don't have to roll your owl. Don't roll your owl. Just let us drink their milk with your coffee. Oh, first of all? No, I'd like half and half. But secondly, what is milk? Oh my gosh. Seriously. I feel like I should be like sleeping in a coffin. Milk. Don't worry listeners. We mock him endlessly for the way he pronounces milk. Yeah, milk anyway. Okay, so that's your petty. So really quick, petty grievance minus because I was traveling. And you know this, it bothers me to no and we had a discussion about this a couple days ago doesn't bother you. It drives me insane. When the plane lands. And we're at the gate. The door isn't even open yet on the plane and people get into the aisles, especially when you're in like row 31. Dude, what are you doing? Like there's nowhere to go? Why are you standing I understand it feels good to stand. But not everybody can stand. And on top of that. I love I sit in the aisle seat. I try to get the aisle seat every single time. The last thing I need is some dude standing three inches away from me after he has been sitting in a seat for six straight hours. Because his legs ache like just give it another five minutes. And then we'll all get out. Because it gets complicated. It gets hard to get your baggage down because the aisle is jammed. People start pushing up so you're in row 31 Suddenly, the dude standing next to you in his slightly sweaty jeans is from like row 34. And you're like, Dude, you're not even going to be able to get your bags. It's chaos. So just relax. sit in your seat. The movie player still works. Finished the movie we're watching or the show. And just relax. Settle down. Settle down. That's my petty grievance. Just settle down. Stay in your seat. I'm on Team stand all the way I totally stand up when the plane lands. Oh, it feels so good. And I love it. If you're late. Fine. Like I get it tell people like look, I gotta get to a different terminal and we're running late. I, I am with you. 100%. Okay. But if you are having that much of an issue with your legs from sitting, walk around on the plane, when the pilot takes that seat belt, you know, sign off, do a couple of laps, go to the bathroom, you don't even have to go the bathroom, just go in the bathroom and hang out. You know what I mean? And then you can leave. That's what I do. I just walk around, I get up half a dozen times. And that's why I don't feel the need to stand in the aisle. That's all just relax. We're not going anywhere yet. Calm down. All right, that's my petty grievance. It's petty. I told you it's the name of this. It's petty grievance. It's petty. All right, let's open the mailbag. And while we're doing that, we got to send a shout out. Thank you to Melissa Sears for sending us a box of goodies and can be thank you so much, Melissa. Great, great surprise when we went to the mailbag. The mailbag has been a just a raging success. Yes, yes. We have the best friends out there. Yes. And the address is in the show notes. So if you send us your questions, first of all, so we can answer them on the podcast. And then if you want to include any goodies, we'll take those two and we'll be so grateful. Yes. Okay, you ready for the question? Let's do this as a fun one. Okay. We've actually gotten this before we've never answered it. So we're actually bumping this up the list a little bit. I think this is a hilarious question. What is the dumbest or strangest injury you've ever gotten? I'm gonna go first. Sure. I got hurt. Sleeping. So I was sitting on the couch. And this was when I believe we lived in North Carolina at the time. So we would have had maybe we had all three kids suffice to say I was lacking deep sleep, or consistent sleep. And I was sitting on the couch and what would happen every single night? Very early is I would if I was reading or if I was one watching anything, I would just fall asleep. And what happened was I was sitting up on the couch, and my head dropped like two or three times. So like, you know, when you fall asleep and suddenly like your chin just drops, and it kind of shocks you. That happened, I think like two or three times, the third time it happened. I knew something terrible had just occurred. And I basically gave myself whiplash from falling asleep. Now, so true. The The only thing more embarrassing than realizing I just really hurt my neck was having to tell Tammy, I just got hurt sleeping. And I could not turn my neck. I couldn't turn and look to the left to the right. for maybe a week. It was the worst, kind of, I guess I gotta call it whiplash. I don't know how else to call it. But yeah, it was for about a solid week. And the problem was, it was so bad. People asked like what's wrong? And I just figured the best thing is just to just tell the truth, because I couldn't think up anything cool. And I just said, I thought I hurt my neck sleeping. And they were putting What do you mean, if we're dream as it? No, I was just sitting up on the couch. And I started to fall asleep and my head dropped. And they're like, that's the wimpiest injury I've ever heard. So they would be correct. And I had to agree with them. But yeah, that would be the dumbest or the strangest or silliest way. I've gotten hurt. How about you? Thanks kind of similar. I got injured sitting. So. So we lived in New Jersey. I had, I was deep into my art business. And I had a project that was due. And of course I had, you know, put it off to the last minute. And so there was a day that I spent 12 hours sitting in front of my computer doing art, you brought me food, which isn't abnormal, but you brought it to me in the room. So I didn't even have to get up from the computer. I mean, I literally got up like two or three times to use the restroom. And that's it for 12 hours. And I was sitting like, on one of my like one of my legs kind of like half cross, whatever. I was sitting in a strange way. It hurt really bad. I could not move and get out of bed for like two days when my lower back was hurting. I finally I like this is no joke. I went to the chiropractor and I had to climb up the stairs to their second floor office on my hands and knees like bear crawl up the stairs because I couldn't stand upright. It was crazy town. But they said it's actually a very common injury from sitting. So I didn't feel I didn't feel all alone. Do you remember you telling me you had to crawl up the stairs? And I always thought if I'm at the top of the stairs and I see that that's horrifying. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like because I was grimacing and grunting too. Yeah, yeah. So you're in maybe there's like a little sheen of sweat because you're working so hard to just think what is crawling up the stairs like that would that would. I wasn't even there and that image is burned in my mind and keeps me up at night sometimes. So I'm just thankful that there wasn't a small child. Or a very stressed out adult at the top of the stairs that had to see the horrifying image of you bear crawling, sweaty grunting up the stairs. Yeah. Okay, there we go. Now, it's floating fancy time. Now it's floating fancy time. Okay, there we go. All right, what's floating your fancy? Well, there's a place up the street called level beer, which is a very, very small place. They don't serve any food. You can bring your own food in. It's a very cozy place. You can bring your kids in here, bring your dogs in. So there's sometimes dogs just chilling out drinking water out of a bowl. They only level beers a brewery so they serve a couple of maybe like 10 or 12 different beers. The real key for me is how chill and relaxed it is. They always play some pretty good music too. Not too loud, just kind of in the background, although I'm all for loud music, but this is a different vibe. But they have and I've never been into pinball machines. They have what five pinball machines? And like three arcade games. That's it. So it's not much but it's more than they used to have. They're growing. Yeah, I think they've added a pinball machine but I've never been into pinball. But for whatever reason, the idea of having a cold one and playing pinball in a very chill environment is what's been floating my fancy and we went last night. And it was hilarious because you know, Tammy plays pinball less than I do because neither one of us play pinball. And yeah, it was funny watching you play because I don't know how else to put this You're terrible. And it was just cracking me up. But that that that's floating my fancy right now. It's going up playing a little pinball good music in the background having a beer too. And then that's it. That's all I need to float my fancy. Level beer, Multnomah village. Speaking of which we were Last night, and we invited our youngest to come up with us. And she did. And we hung out and we play games together. And it was super, super fun. And it gave us kind of a glimpse, I think into what our life might look like in the fall when we have two kids away at college. Yes, yes. It was a great time. And it made me feel like okay, we got this next year is going to be okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, what's floating your fancy, Tammy? Hey, what's floating my fancy is survivor season 44. So this is a show that I was talking about. When I said I sat on the cloud, or when I sat on the couch all day last Friday, I binged season 44. And it was so good. And it renewed my desire to apply for the show. So I think I'm going to apply for a future season. Yeah, this comes about I'd say, every two years or so. Were you seriously consider trying out for Survivor. The one thing though, that you told me which is I think kind of changed a little bit is how intense people get now training for Survivor because I thought one of the fun things in the past was the fact that these are like everyday people showing up. And now it's getting it's like people are getting into the puzzles are getting into the strategy. They're getting into the physical training, the the mental and mindful calcium you need to have because this is this is tough. So do you think Tammie would be good? In a season? 45? Or 46? Or 47? Or was your sweet spot like season? 21? Season Seven? Season 14? Do you think you can you can do what it takes to thrive in a season 45? Well, season 45 has already been filmed. But yes, and it is interesting because when I told our daughter that I was gonna apply, she was like You better hurry up mom, because people are getting so good. You got to get in now before it's too late. So like she even kind of had the same kind of thinking. Now, I will tell you this. It was either after the first or second season of Survivor, I decided that I wanted to apply. I told my grandparents who were alive at the time, I feel like I was at their house. And I started the application process. But there was a question on there about like, do you have tattoos or something? And I was like, Oh, shit. I was in my mid 20s or young 20s. And I did have a tattoo or two, but I hadn't told my mom. And so I was scared to go on survivor, because I thought if she sees my tattoos, she'll be so disappointed. I'll be this whole thing. And so I actually that's what kept me from applying way back then. She's, but now I think I'm ready. I'm think I'm like really ready to do it. Is that because your mom now knows you have tattoos? She still doesn't know. But now I don't give a shit. Okay, there you go. All right. I think you'd be great. I think you'd be really, I think the puzzles obviously, you'd be amazing at. I think the strategy you'd be very good at. And I think the kind of mental endurance you need. I think you'd be fine. I think you'd have a couple epic episodes there where you lose your mind. Which would make you I think a crowd favorites. I think you'd rally. But I think there'd be some really cool epic meltdowns. You know, what do you mean by that? Like crying? I don't really know. I think just, you know, I'd love to see how you would handle like backstabbing and people you trusted. That kind of threw you under the bus. I'd also love to see if like you had it in you to throw someone else under the bus, you know, and maybe abused that trust. Because that's, that's something that I don't You're You're such a honest, trustworthy person. It'll be interesting to see you have the excuse to go sinister. So, yeah, I think it'd be a lot of fun and terrifying to watch, you know, but a lot of fun. Yeah, go for it. And how long do you have to be away? It's either 45 or 54 days? Oh, yes, definitely go. Okay, what's on deck? What's coming up for you the next week? I got two big things. One is Nike outdoor nationals, which is the high school track and field national championships is in Eugene, Oregon. So I'm going to have to go there to do some events for that. High school levels, my favorite level. So I love being around that age group and seeing them compete. And and, you know, like we said, it's an unbelievable community. And there's a lot of coaches I get to see. So I'm excited about going to Eugene for that that starts I believe on Thursday. And also on Thursday, drumroll. Coach Bennett's podcast will officially be dropped. So if you're interested which How could you not be interested? Come on. Coach Bennett's podcast asked will be launched this Thursday. Hopefully everywhere that you listen to podcasts, you know, that's not up to me. That's up to the different sites like Apple and Spotify and Google okaying it but I feel pretty confident that they should. They should be up there for the most part this Thursday, which is really cool. Which by the way means every Tuesday, you get a to coach Bennett's talking podcast. Wednesday, you get a brand new show up society podcast. And then Thursday, you get a coach Bennett's podcast three days in a row, your three favorite podcasts. So that's what's coming up for me. So exciting. And we'll put the link to your new podcast in the show notes. If it's up. Well, you said it's going to be up Thursday. But this comes out on Tuesday, two days before it. So in the show, how are people gonna find it? They're gonna have to just literally search for Coach pendants podcast, or they can go to your Instagram, probably and you're probably going to be linking it. Yes, that's true, too. I guess we could put it up in the show notes. Maybe it pops up early. We'll see. Who knows. Anyway, it's happening. How cool is that? Okay. Our shoes I had no, I was about to do a southern accent and then I still think went British or Australian. I don't know what was happening there. I don't know what happened anyway. Okay, what's coming up with you? Not very exciting compared to yours? At all? Wow. Hmm. Well, I'm going to be getting my 7000 steps a day again, because I've realized how sedentary I am, things to this Garmin watch I'm wearing now. Okay, so that's a little, you know, life adjustment. And I mean, for you what a 7000 Steps end up being like, how much distance do you have to travel? Or how much time does it take? Do you think? I don't know. I like I looked it up. And they say for women. It's about three miles. But I don't know. I haven't calculated it yet. I've just been looking at the steps but I haven't been equating itself mileage or whatever, or minutes. I know, it's a lot more than I've been doing. Okay. So fair enough. Yeah. Every day. 7000 steps a day. Yes. That's my seven 7k For seven. So that is that kind of the theme, like 7007 days a week for 49,000. And if you're really getting after it, it's 50. Oh, neat. I like it. Yeah, there should be like a bonus. Like if you hit 50. Maybe the reward is doing the steps and themselves. Oh, that's powerful. Huh? Yeah, that's about it. I might do a beach day. I have a lot of mail to send out. So I like the idea of sending mail very, very much. I had a I had a stationery business for God's sakes. You the actual act of writing and finding a stamp and finding the address is a lot. Yeah, it is. It is. But it's worth it. It's a worthy, worthy cause. Worthy work. Yeah. So that's it. Cool. That's great. Okay. And we're at the end of the road, like if I'm not mistaken. This is how we end our episodes. Right? I'm getting better. Good job. There we go. Okay, so all we got to do is say See you later and thanks for coming. Alligator, right after wild crocodile. There you go. So, thank you. This was a blast. As always. Thank you to the listener for listening. Come back next week. We'll be here. Yeah. And if you haven't subscribed, subscribe. Come on, you know, give us a good review to especially if we deserve it. And if we don't deserve it, but you gave us a good review that will give us something to live up to. There we go. I'm done. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye bye. Or I should say we do a southern accent. See, like, I can't do it. I'm stuck in Australia. Suddenly I can't do it. So no, that's English. Boy. Now you see. Oh my gosh, we got to embrace. Alright, everyone. Bye. Thank you for hanging out with us today. We hope you subscribe if you haven't already, and we'd love for you to give us a good rating. Remember, you can send your questions into our mailbag at the address found in the show notes. If you want to connect with us further. Be sure to check out Coach Chris Bennett on Instagram at Coach Bennett to NS two T's or go to coach Tammie Bennett's Instagram at shop society. 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